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So, the ending to Heroes last night.

Ugh.

(Let's assume that any comments may be filled with spoilers.)

Date: 2009-04-28 03:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lampbane.livejournal.com
It could have been cool if the season hadn't been such a letdown and the "three deaths" thing such a stupid copout.

Date: 2009-04-28 03:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] raptorck.livejournal.com
It's just the whole Nathan angle that makes me want to rent a truck, so that I can drive it through the Giant Plot Hole.

Date: 2009-04-28 07:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] raptorck.livejournal.com
Did something change with Claire's blood as a magical cure-all for even having your brains blown out that precluded that option?

Date: 2009-04-28 07:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lampbane.livejournal.com
You better ask Noah about that, because I don't think Matt or Mama Petrelli know that Claire's blood could do that much.

(Of course, I could be wrong. But I don't think of it as a plot hole, so much as just a minor case of stupid.)

Date: 2009-04-28 08:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] raptorck.livejournal.com
I'd bet that Mama Patrelli had some idea, it was *her* company that had extracted Claire's blood in the first place, not to mention, years of dealing with Adam Monroe.

Peter also knew about that, come to think of it, but of course, he wasn't there.

It strikes me as obvious that Noah would know, logical that Angela *should* know, and completely believable if Matt *doesn't* know, even though he can read minds and has dug pretty deep into Noah's head before.

Date: 2009-04-28 08:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lampbane.livejournal.com
Speaking of the company... bleeerrrrggghhh arrrrrgh why are we going backward!!! The company's back, but apparently it's going to be all fuzzy and warm now. Bullshit.

Everything that happened this season was the same things as before.

Date: 2009-04-28 08:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] raptorck.livejournal.com
Including Schrodinger's Nathan.

Date: 2009-04-29 05:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ant1978.livejournal.com
Yeah, the blood thing irked me, too. This season was getting rather good towards the end, which I guess is why this is such a letdown.

Seems like the first half of this season they spent trying to undo all of Season 2. And the second half of this season they spent trying to correct the first half.

Have we ever gotten some sort of explanation on how/why Peter's powers have changed?

Date: 2009-04-29 07:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] raptorck.livejournal.com
Well, Peter had his powers taken away by Pa-trelli.

Then he took the last shot of the super-soldier serum at the end of the Villains arc.

Since the powers are supposedly an interaction of one's genes and are triggered by adrenaline, his powers are different because THE WRITERS FUCKING SUCK.

Date: 2009-04-30 11:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] picard42.livejournal.com
It's not like that plot device was any worse than any number of plot devices used in comics to power down characters who have gotten out of control.

In fact, Rogue is a great example, because she had the exact same issue. Some idiot writer (Claremont, I think, in the terrible X-Treme X-Men) decided it would be neat if she could use the powers of every single person she had ever touched. Obviously, she had to be clumsily powered down a year or two later.

But there's a much stronger similarity in this very episode. In Exiles, Morph had been killed and no one knew what to do with Proteus, who was the book's main villain and was, at the time, inhabiting Morph's body. The solution was to trick him into thinking he WAS Morph. Sounds familiar, doesn't it?

I'm sure it's not intentional, since it's pretty obscure at this point, but I thought the similarity was interesting.

Date: 2009-04-30 02:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] raptorck.livejournal.com
Oh, I know about Morph. I didn't even want to get into that, since it's not a bad idea.

The clumsy de-powering just doesn't make sense within their own super-science. For example, I can accept that in the Marvel universe, radiation = super powers. I can even accept secondary mutations. Hell, at that point, I can accept changing mutations. If nothing is stable, then power changes are perfectly sensible. If they wanted to de-power Peter, that's fine. I just wish they'd pick something that didn't make Electric Superman seem like a logical progression by comparison.

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